Agenda and minutes

Community Forum (Alton & Surrounding Villages)
Tuesday, 31st October, 2017 6.30 pm

Venue: Alton Maltings Centre - Maltings Close, Alton, Hants. GU34 1DT. View directions

Contact: Cynthia Haveron  Democratic Services Officer - 01730 234092

No. Item


Apologies for Absence

To receive apologies for absence.


Apologies for absence were received from Councillors D Brooks Jackson, T Costigan, C Louisson and D Phillips.


Confirmation of Minutes

Please note that it is helpful if Councillors could give advance notice, to Democratic Services, of any questions they wish to raise in respect of the Minutes.


Minutes of the previous meeting held on 27 June 2017, previously circulated.


The minutes of the meeting held on 27 June 2017 were agreed and signed as a correct record.


Chairman's Announcements

To receive any announcements the Chairman may wish to make for information.


There were no Chairman’s announcements.


Declarations of Interest

To receive and record any declarations of interest from members present in respect of any of the various matters on the agenda for this meeting.


There were no declarations of interest.


You Said - and What We Did

North Hampshire Clinical Commissioning Group will give an update on the  outcomes of Alton’s strategic health service review, and what that means for residents’.


Clinical Commissioning Group Staff Present will be:


·                     Zara Hyde Peters, Director of Delivery;

·                     Lyndsay Evans, Commissioning Manager (Community, Integrated and Unplanned Care); and

·                     Paul Davey (Head of Communications and Engagement)


Fort Information/Discussion


The Chairman introduced Zara Hyde Peters, Lyndsay Evans and Paul Davey from the North Hampshire Clinical Commissioning Group (NHCCG), who gave a presentation on the results of the review of health and care services in Alton.


The review had been carried out by commissioners and providers to make sure health care services in and around the Alton area could meet the needs of the local population, make sure services could work better together to provide more services closer to home and help support self care and develop proposals that supported national policies that were consistent with wider strategies for the local health system.


Queries were raised about why they hadn’t consulted with Four Marks Parish Council. NHCCG admitted if this was the case, it had been an oversight on their part and it hadn’t been a conscious decision not to engage with them. Subsequent to the meeting, NHCCG queried this with the previous Programme Manager who advised that Four Marks Parish Council had been invited to be part of the consultation and requested this was recorded in the minutes.


Alton residents highly valued their Hospital and given the expected rise in the towns population there were questions raised regarding NHCCG’s plans for their existing services and if they intended to develop any new facilities. It was confirmed there was still an ongoing review of facilities across the whole of North Hampshire but that greater efficiency of the hospital in-patient beds would ensure that greater capacity was available.  There were currently no plans to expand the facility however service capacity would be reviewed.


The Chairman requested it would be helpful if NHCCG could provide a programme that showed what would be delivered at the Alton Community Hospital and when. Zara Hyde Peters advised the NHS planning cycle was short term and currently did not extend beyond 2020. Furthermore their plans wouldn’t be deliverable until the funding became available and as a result it was possible to list what was expected to come forward but difficult to give exact dates.


When asked if the data used in the review was accessible to view, it was confirmed most information that hadn’t already been put in to the public domain was available under a freedom of information request. Zara Hyde Peters advised they could get information from 2015 and to contact NHCCG or email her directly to request this. 


It was recognised anti natal scans could be done at Alton Community Hospital 30 years ago but expectant mothers now had to travel to Basingstoke for this where public transport was costly and took up a lot of time. Residents wondered if they could expect this service to return to the area. The issue came down to a specialist shortage (sonographers), not lack of machinery. Alton Community Hospital had been unsuccessful in recruiting specialists locally and providing this expertise would mean taking it away from another site.


Cllr Robert Saunders was a member of the South Eastern Hampshire Clinical Commissioning Group and suggested NHCCG would  ...  view the full minutes text for item 15.


Public Question Time

Members of the public are invited to ask questions on general matters affecting the local community.


If your question is not answered at the meeting then the Democratic Services Team will try to answer your question within 10 working days of the meeting.  The answer will be included in the next agenda.


Friends of Alton Station wanted to thank the Alton Councillors who awarded funding to their latest project towards a survey of the footbridge and produced a prospectus which was available for the public to read.


At the Alton and Surrounding Villages Community Forum in June 2017 Froyle Parish Council raised the issue of the operation of a wedding venue at Froyle Park. Since then they had received a response from the Council’s Legal Department but felt it was unsatisfactory and didn’t answer the questions they had asked and requested District Councillors help get an explanation. It was believed the premises was not acting under the planning permission it was granted. They also wanted to know why the report of the investigation that was carried out was not made public. Residents felt this was a problem that needed addressing and had their own legal advice that said they were correct in perusing the matter.


In response the Chairman clarified they had endeavoured to provide the information they had asked for but could not expand on the answer that had already been given. In addition it was explained when a decision was made the officers had to follow the Legal framework of planning law. If they were not content with the answer they had been given then they would need to speak to the relevant officers.


Councillor Hill left the meeting at 20:14.


RESOLVED that Councillor Andrew Joy be Chairman for the remainder of the meeting.


Councillor Joy took the Chair at 20:14.


There was a discussion raised regarding the boundary review carried out by the Local Government Boundary Commission for England. The initial intention had been to split Alton in two which residents felt ignored community cohesion. It had most recently been discussed at the Full Council meeting of Alton Town Council where it was unanimously decided they did not agree with the proposed changes.


Some felt the boundaries were nonsense as they didn’t follow any clear roads or sensible limits. However it was explained that the new boundaries took in to account the number of electors in that area, so population per area became more equal throughout the district. In addition it was notified that the consultation for the proposed parliamentary boundary changes had closed a year ago and focus was now on the district boundaries.