Agenda and minutes

Community Forum (Whitehill & Bordon, Liphook, Headley, Grayshott, Lindford & Greatham)
Tuesday, 20th October, 2015 6.30 pm

Venue: Lindford Village Hall - 35 Sycamore Road, Lindford, Bordon, GU35 0RD. View directions

Contact: Lisa Papps  Democratic Services Assistant - 01730 234073

No. Item


Apologies for Absence

To receive and record apologies for absence.


Apologies were received from Councillors F Cowper, R Millard and B Mouland.


Confirmation of Minutes

Please note that it is helpful if Councillors could give advance notice, to Democratic Services, of any questions they wish to raise in respect of the Minutes.


Minutes of the last meeting held on 20 July 2015, previously circulated.


The minutes of the meeting held on 20 July 2015 were agreed and signed as a correct record.


Chairman's Announcements


There were no Chairman’s announcements


Declarations of Interest

To receive and record any declarations of interest from members present in respect of any of the various matters on the agenda for this meeting.


There were no declarations of interest.


Worried about Crime?

Following an introduction, there will be a panel discussion with Chief Inspector

Beth Pirie, Sergeant Stuart Tripp and Ryan Gulliver, EHDC’s Community Safety Manager. 


Members of the public are encouraged to attend and participate in the discussion; the question posed being ‘Is the fear of crime worse than the reality?’


In addition, there will be an opportunity to meet with Wade Hicks, the new EHDC funded PCSO who covers the Longmoor area.  The PCSO’s support EHDC’s Community Safety Team with issues such as anti-social behaviour and crime prevention.


Chief Inspector Beth Pirie, Sergeant Stuart Tripp and Ryan Gulliver, EHDC Community Safety Manager, introduced themselves. 


Hampshire Constabulary was going through testing times and had saved £18 million in the past 10 years.  During this time the population had grown by 10%.  The next budget cut would be known in November, which was predicted to be between 25% and 40%.  However, Hampshire Constabulary had a good change programme and a recent inspection by Her Majesty’s Inspector of Constabularies had been favourable and shown that the force was doing well when compared to others.  Crime levels in East Hampshire were relatively low and it was hoped that the three recently appointed EHDC funded PCSO’s would have a positive impact in policing local communities.


Mr Gulliver explained the work of the Community Safety Team, half of which was preventative, rather than punitive.  This included identifying and supporting troubled families and identifying vulnerable places for criminal activity via the multi-agency Community Tactical and Co-ordinating Group (CTCG) meetings.


Members of the public asked a number of questions relating to crime in the area and logistical matters regarding the operation of Hampshire Constabulary.


In respect of crime, concerns were raised about fly tipping in the area and the increasing use of off road scrambler bikes and quad bikes on the former MoD land at Hogmoor Inclosure.  Concerns regarding specific crimes were also referred to.  These included communication between the police and a parish council after money had been stolen, help requested in setting up a neighbourhood watch and stopping further crime following a spate of burglaries in an area and the length of time that it took for the Police to attend an incident of criminal damage outside a convenience store.


Those who had raised specific concerns were advised to speak to Chief Insp. Pirie or Sgt Tripp after the meeting, although it was confirmed that having to wait six weeks for the Police to attend an incident of criminal damage was clearly unacceptable.  The Police were happy to assist people who wanted to establish Neighbourhood Watch groups.  With regard to communications,  Hampshire Constabulary had to abide by the Data Protection Act regarding giving details to a parish council about a suspects previous criminal record.


Fly tipping was acknowledged as a real concern, although it was very difficult to catch the offenders.  Most instances happened in quiet country lanes at night, where there were no witnesses or CCTV.  Local intelligence from residents was key in catching the perpetrators of fly tipping and the unauthorised use of often unregistered, untaxed and un-roadworthy off road motorbikes on land.  The Police had powers to seize and crush such vehicles, although there was also an onus on landowners if they were being ridden on private land.  It was encouraged that instances of such behaviour be reported to the Police via the ‘101’ number and as much detail as possible given.


In respect of logistics, It was confirmed that Neighbourhood Teams remained at the heart of policing in Hampshire  ...  view the full minutes text for item 12.


Appointment to Outside Body 2015-2016

That the Forum appoints a District Councillor from its membership to the following outside body:


·                     Whitehill and Bordon Community Association


RESOLVED that Cllr Alan Waterhouse be appointed as EHDC’s representative on the Whitehill and Bordon Community Association for 2015-2016.