Agenda and minutes

Planning Committee
Thursday, 24th August, 2017 6.00 pm

Venue: Council Chamber, Penns Place, Petersfield, GU31 4EX. View directions

Contact: James Harris  Democratic Services Assistant - 01730 234098

Items
No. Item

36.

Apologies for Absence

Minutes:

Apologies were received from Councillors N Drew, A Glass, M Johnson, A Joy, R Mocatta, D Phillips, S Schillemore and A Williams.

37.

Confirmation of Minutes

Please note that it is helpful if Councillors could give advance notice, to Democratic Services, of any questions they wish to raise in respect of the Minutes.

 

Minutes of the meeting held on 13 July 2017, circulated under separate cover.

Minutes:

The minutes of the meeting held on 13 July 2017 were confirmed as a correct record and signed.

 

38.

Chairman's Announcements

Minutes:

There were no Chairman’s Announcements.

39.

Declarations of Interest

Councillors are reminded of their responsibility to declare any disclosable pecuniary interest which they may have in any item of business on the agenda no later than when that item is reached.  Unless dispensation has been granted, you may not participate in any discussion of, or vote on, or discharge any function related to any matter in which you have a pecuniary interest as defined by regulations made by the Secretary of State under the Localism Act 2011.  You must withdraw from the room or chamber when the meeting discusses and votes on the matter.

Minutes:

Councillor(s)

Item Number(s)

Nature of Interest

Details of Interest

Cllr C Louisson*

 

 

 

 

20283/011/FUL/RV – Maddocks Hill House, Maddocks Hill, Ropley, Alresford, SO24 0JA

 

Pecuniary

 

 

 

 

Cllr Louisson was the applicant and land owner.

 

* The councillor left the room during the debate and vote on this item.

 

40.

Acceptance of Supplementary Matters pdf icon PDF 72 KB

Minutes:

Councillors noted the supplementary papers which included information received since the agenda had been published. These were reported verbally at the meeting and are attached as Annex A to these minutes.

41.

Future Items pdf icon PDF 51 KB

Minutes:

The committee agreed to visit the following sites:

 

·           25380/018 – Coomers (Oakhanger) Ltd, Oakhanger Road, Oakhanger, Bordon, GU35 9JU;

 

·           SDNP/17/03736/FUL – Forest Brow Residential Home, 63 Forest Road, Liss, GU33 7BL; and

 

·           30024/008 – Chequers Inn, Winchester Road, Ropley.  SO24 0BS

42.

Report of the Head of Planning

Minutes:

The report of the Head of Planning was considered and it was RESOLVED that:

 

Application No., Site and Description

Resolution:

 

49352/007/FUL

 

Land West of Bentley Industrial Centre, Main Road, Bentley, Farnham

 

Eight dwellings, provision of footpath link, car parking and associated landscaping.

 

Permission subject to the conditions as set out in Appendix A.

 

24314/015/FUL

 

2 Somerset Villas, Mill Chase Road, Bordon, GU35 0EL

 

Two detached two storey houses one with garage and the other with parking space and new vehicular access to Primula Road (amended site layout plan received 14/8/2017)

 

Permission subject to the conditions as set out in Appendix A.

 

20283/011/FUL

 

Maddocks Hill House, Maddocks Hill, Ropley, Alresford, SO24 0JA

 

All weather riding arena

 

Permission subject to the conditions as set out in Appendix A.

 

27580/006/TPO

 

Little Benifold, Headley Hill Road, Headley, Bordon, GU35 8DU

 

2 Sycamore on the southern edge of the woodland, north of the house, as shown on submitted plan and photos. - Fell

 

Consent subject to the conditions as set out in Appendix A.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

35364/002/FUL

 

Land to the north of, Ramshill, Petersfield, GU314AT

 

276 Dwellings with associated works  including garages, parking, access and demolition of 44 & 46 Ramshill (as amplified by transport assessment received 05/02/2002, noise and vibration reports received 24/04/2002 & 2/5/02, plant list, Ecological Appraisal, Planting Plan received 01/05/2002, Landscape Management Plan received 26/04/2002 as amended by plans received 30/04/2002, 16/05/2002 and  19/12/2002)

 

Report noted.

 

43.

PART 1 - East Hampshire District Council - Applications and related planning matters to be determined or considered by the Council as the local planning authority pdf icon PDF 145 KB

44.

SECTION 1 - APPLICATIONS REPORTED IN DETAIL

45.

49352/007/FUL/SAW - Land West of Bentley Industrial Centre, Main Road, Bentley, Farnham pdf icon PDF 1 MB

C Y Homes Ltd

 

Eight dwellings, provision of footpath link, car parking and associated landscaping.

Minutes:

Eight dwellings, provision of footpath link, car parking and associated landscaping.

 

The Development Management Team Leader introduced the application and displayed an aerial photograph of the site, along with photographs of and from within the site, the access through the industrial estate and the relationship of the site to the industrial estate and existing dwellings.  In addition he showed elevations of the proposed dwellings, a site plan of the proposed development and plans for the pedestrian footpath to Main Road.

 

He gave a background to the planning history of the site, detailing the three previous refusals and Appeal Inspector’s decisions.  The sole reason for the dismissal of the latest appeal concerned details around the pedestrian access to Main Road, which had been addressed in the current application.

 

He confirmed that the site had originally been allocated as employment land in the East Hampshire District Local Plan: Second Review and that this had been carried forward into the draft Bentley Neighbourhood Plan.  However, it had been removed from the Neighbourhood Plan at the request of the examiner and the site was inside the Settlement Policy Boundary for Bentley.  Therefore, the principle of the proposal was acceptable.

 

The recommendation was for approval.

 

Mr Thallon spoke on behalf of objectors to the application.

 

This development has been refused three times and three times the appeals against the decision had been dismissed.  He questioned what had changed this time, in his opinion, very little.

 

The case recommending the development was weak and contradictory. As an example, he focussed on access.  Vehicle access would still be through the industrial estate and as such these houses would effectively be an extension of that industrial estate.

 

A key issue which he quoted from the case officer’s report, “Officer considers that the juxtaposition of the development and the neighbouring industrial estate is poor in that future residents would need to access the development through the industrial estate.”

 

“As such this is considered to be poor urban design contrary to advice in paragraphs 32, 57 and 61 of the NPPF and CP29 of the JCS.”

 

He reminded the committee that Policy CP29 required the district’s built environment to be of an exemplary standard of design.  Vehicle access through an industrial estate didn’t seem to meet this criterion.

 

The previous appeal inspector had also highlighted that, “the means of access through the industrial estate which lacks proper footways or any vestiges of residential character would be intimidating”, and added “particularly for pedestrians” but clearly for drivers as well.

 

The vehicular access lacked residential character; it was also potentially dangerous.  This was a busy industrial estate.  All the units were occupied, although the developers claimed that this site was not viable.  Industrial vehicles, such as vans, lorries and fork lifts were constantly operating in the access road. Additional traffic to the proposed site would at best cause confusion and at worst accidents.

 

Pedestrian access would be no better despite the proposed car park alterations;

 

To maintain the 6m spacing between opposing  ...  view the full minutes text for item 45.

46.

24314/015/FUL/NP - 2 Somerset Villas, Mill Chase Road, Bordon, GU35 0EL pdf icon PDF 974 KB

Mr Daly

 

 

Two detached two storey houses one with garage and the other with parking space and new vehicular access to Primula Road (amended site layout plan received 14/8/2017)

 

Minutes:

Two detached two storey houses one with garage and the other with parking space and new vehicular access to Primula Road (amended site layout plan received 14/8/2017).

 

The Development Management Team Leader introduced the application and gave a background to the planning history of the site.

 

He displayed an aerial photograph of the site, along with photographs of and from within the site and the street scene.  In addition, he showed elevations of the proposed dwellings and a site plan detailing the access via Primula Road.

 

The recommendation was for approval, subject to the amended wording to Condition 6 detailed in the update to the committee report.

 

Mr Ian Ellis spoke as the agent.

 

He addressed the concerns raised about highway safety and trees, confirming that the Arboricultural Officer was satisfied with the plans and the principle of the access through Primula Road was fixed and the applicant was satisfied that this could be achieved.

 

Cllr Tony Muldoon spoke as the local ward councillor.

 

He explained that the site had a long history and questioned the ownership of the land that would be used to form the proposed access.  He thought that the access would be hard to achieve and if implemented, would have a negative impact on the existing residents of Primula Road with regard to a loss of parking and additional vehicle movements.  Advice from Thames Water regarding the possibility of a sewer under the proposed access had also yet to be received.

 

The committee discussed the application and in reply to questions was advised that land ownership for the access was not a planning matter, nor was the possibility of a sewer.  The committee felt that the main issue was the access and noted that the application had no objections from Hampshire Highways. 

 

The committee voted on the officer’s recommendation for permission, with the amended wording to Condition 6 detailed in the Supplementary Matters sheet.

 

Following the vote, the recommendation was declared CARRIED, 10 Councillors voting FOR permission, no Councillors voting AGAINST permission and no Councillors ABSTAINING from voting.

 

Cllr Louisson left the meeting in accordance with his previous declaration of interest.

47.

20283/011/FUL/RV - Maddocks Hill House, Maddocks Hill, Ropley, Alresford, SO24 0JA pdf icon PDF 2 MB

MrLouisson

 

 

All weather riding arena.

 

Minutes:

All weather riding arena.

 

The Planning Management Manager introduced the application and displayed an aerial photograph of the site, along with photographs of and from within the site and a site plan of the proposed arena.  She confirmed that the arena would be for private use only.

 

The recommendation was for approval.

 

The committee voted on the officer’s recommendation for permission.

 

Following the vote, the recommendation was declared CARRIED, 9 Councillors voting FOR permission, no Councillors voting AGAINST permission and no Councillors ABSTAINING from voting.

 

Cllr Louisson re-joined the committee.

48.

27580/006/TPO/SG - Little Benifold, Headley Hill Road, Headley, Bordon, GU35 8DU pdf icon PDF 113 KB

Mrs Williams

 

 

2 Sycamore on the southern edge of the woodland, north of the house, as shown on submitted plan and photos. - Fell

 

Minutes:

2 Sycamore on the southern edge of the woodland, north of the house, as shown on submitted plan and photos. - Fell

 

The Planning Management Manager introduced the application and displayed an aerial photograph of the site, along with photographs of the trees that were the subject of the application.

 

The recommendation was for consent.

 

The committee voted on the officer’s recommendation for consent.

 

Following the vote, the recommendation was declared CARRIED, 10 Councillors voting FOR consent, no Councillors voting AGAINST consent and no Councillors ABSTAINING from voting.

49.

PART 2 - South Downs National Park - Applications and related planning matters to be determined or considered by the Council on behalf of the South Downs National Park Authority

50.

SECTION 2 - OTHER MATTERS

51.

35364/002/FUL/JM - Land to the north of, Ramshill, Petersfield, GU31 4AT pdf icon PDF 535 KB

Taylor Woodrow Developments Limited

 

276 dwellings with associated works including garages, parking, access and demolition of 44 & 46 Ramshill (as amplified by Transport Assessment  received 05/02/2002, Noise and Vibration Reports received  24/04/2002 & 2/5/02,  Plant List, Ecological Appraisal, Planting Plan received 01/05/2002, Landscape Management Plan received 26/04/2002 as amended by plans received 30/04/2002, 16/05/2002 and 19/12/2002)

 

Minutes:

276 dwellings with associated works including garages, parking, access and demolition of 44 & 46 Ramshill (as amplified by transport assessment received 05/02/2002, noise and vibration reports received 24/04/2002 and 02/05/2002, plant list, ecological appraisal, planting plan received 01/05/2002, landscape management plan received 26/04/2002 as amended by plans received 30/04/2002, 16/05/2002 and 19/12/2002)

 

The Planning Management Manager introduced the item and drew the committee’s attention to the update from the Chairman of the Ramshill Residents Association that had been included within the Supplementary Matters sheet.

 

Progress had been made since the previous update in March 2017 and it was likely that the footpath would be adopted by Petersfield Town Council.  Petersfield Town Council had now adopted maintenance of all facilities on the development, including the play area and landscaping.

 

The County Highway Authority had acknowledged that surface water already discharged onto Ramshill and had given verbal confirmation that a licence would not be required for this discharge, subject to an additional drain at the bottom of the footpath before it reaches Ramshill.

 

The committee highlighted the amount of work that had been undertaken by officers to reach this stage, although urged that the matter be fully resolved and brought to the committee for determination by the end of this calendar year.

 

The committee NOTED the officer’s report.