Agenda and draft minutes

Licensing Committee - Friday, 20th February, 2015 10.00 am

Venue: Council Chamber, Penns Place, Petersfield, GU31 4EX

Contact: James Harris  Democratic Services Officer

No. Item


Apologies for Absence

To receive and record any apologies for absence.


There were apologies for absence from Councillors D Ashcroft, B Mouland,

R Saunders and C Wherrell.


Confirmation of Minutes

Minutes of the Licensing Committee held on 13 January 2015 and the Sub-Committees held on 10 October 2014 at 10am and 11.30am , 7 November 2014 and 1.15pm on 30 January 2015.


The minutes of the Licensing Committee held on 13 January 2015 and the Sub-Committees held on 10 October 2014 at 10am and 11.30am, 7 November 2014 and 1.15pm on 30 January 2015 were confirmed as a true record.


Chairman's Announcements


There were no Chairman’s announcements.


Declarations of Interest

To receive and record any declarations of interest from councillors present in respect of any of the various matters on the agenda for this meeting.


There were no declarations of interest.


Proposed Addition of a Booking Fee to the Table of Hackney Carriage Fares pdf icon PDF 37 KB


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The Licensing Team Leader introduced the report and explained that the Committee had to consider the objections received to the proposed booking fee on the Hackney Carriage Table of Fees as agreed by the Committee at its meeting held on 13 January 2015.


The new table of fares had been published and distributed to members of the trade. Three objections had been received within the 14 day consultation period. Other correspondence had been received after the consultation period had ended, but were read for the Committees information.


There were three objections to the fee on the basis that it was not sufficient.  Two of these objections, from Mr New at Wilsons, and Mr Winter were lists of drivers names who were in agreement that £3 was not enough.  The third from a Mr Speller of Alton thanked the Committee for their consideration, but advised that £3 was insufficient.


There was a further objection from Mr Goodwin of Holybourne objecting to the idea of the booking fee entirely.


Mr Blackman from Alton 8’s was present to address the Committee.


The Licensing Team Leader reminded the Committee that they had the following options:


·                     To retain the booking fee previously agreed;


·                     Whether a different fee may apply and what it should be.


·                     Agree as to when the new Table of Fares should have effect. This could not be more that two months after the first date specified (23 February 2015). Thus any variation had to commence before 23 April 2015.


Mr Blackman, of Alton 8’s, representing the East Hampshire Taxi Association addressed the Committee. He believed that the £3 fee was not enough. He had undertaken an exercise the previous day to drive around Four Marks, working out the fees normally charged by meter in that area.


Fare differences included:


·                     Alton to Ropley would normally be £16

·                     The Swan in Alton to Tesco’s in Four Marks- £12.20

·                     Tesco to the Travel Lodge £4.


He did not believe that a driver would be willing to go to Four Marks for £7. (A £3 booking fee and then a £4 fare).  There had to be trust a fair days earning for a fair days work.


He proposed that there should be a maximum fare payable and a booking fee of £10. The law stated that you could not charge more than the meter fare. All his drivers fully supported his objections.


Mr Blackman was asked how many bookings his firm would take from customers in Four Marks, to which he advised he would receive 4 or 5 calls a week.


The Sub-Committee discussed the application.


It was confirmed that there was no charge for any pick up from a rank, and that the proposed booking fee was discretionary and a driver did not have to charge this fee should they not wish to for a local collection. There was a discussion about the difference between a taxi and a private hire vehicle. A private hire fleet were all pre-booked and would set their  ...  view the full minutes text for item 18.